CO129-350 - Public Offices - 1908 — Page 511

CO129 Colonial Office Hong Kong Records 理藩院香港檔案 All AI Reviewed

This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government.

508 60

# CHINA RAILWAYS

## CONFIDENTIAL

[2794]

No. 1.

[January

IR 20 FEE 08; SECTION 1.

Sir Edward Grey to Sir C. MacDonald.

(No. 12.) Sir,

Foreign Office, January 25, 1908. THE Japanese Ambassador told me on the 21st January that in 1905, after the cession of the Russian rights in South Manchuria to the Japanese, he had obtained from the Chinese a promise that they would not make any line competing with the South Manchuria Railway, or any branch which would injure it.

The railway for which the Chinese had now given a contract was the very line which Baron Komura had in his mind when getting this promise. The Japanese Government had, therefore, protested to the Chinese some time ago against this railway being made. They had protested again only two or three days before the contract was signed. The Chinese therefore knew very well what they were doing.

The South Manchurian Railway was the only paying concern which the Japanese had obtained from the war. Corea, for instance, was costing them money—not bringing it in. Even the railway was not paying, though it would do so in the future. It was, therefore, impossible that the Japanese should allow a competing line to be made, and they would have to take whatever steps were necessary to prevent it.

I told him we had already instructed Sir John Jordan that we could not press the railway if it really was a competing line, though British people who were interested in it commercially contended that it was not a competing line.

We were not interested in it politically in any way—that is to say, it was in no sense a British Concession. The Chinese had given the contract to Messrs. Pauling, a well-known firm who had made railways in Africa, and we had given the firm the support which we gave to any British firm engaged in commercial enterprise in any part of the world.'

We had not taken any steps to promote the making of this particular line, but we had recommended the firm to the Chinese as one of good reputation, in case they should wish to employ them for their own purposes.

I am, &c.

[2815 bb-1]

(Signed)

E. GREY.

Edit History

2026-06-06 00:45:17 · NVIDIA / meta/llama-4-maverick-17b-128e-instruct
Live
View comparison
AI Proofread
This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government. 508 60 # CHINA RAILWAYS ## CONFIDENTIAL [2794] No. 1. [January IR 20 FEE 08; SECTION 1. Sir Edward Grey to Sir C. MacDonald. (No. 12.) Sir, Foreign Office, January 25, 1908. THE Japanese Ambassador told me on the 21st January that in 1905, after the cession of the Russian rights in South Manchuria to the Japanese, he had obtained from the Chinese a promise that they would not make any line competing with the South Manchuria Railway, or any branch which would injure it. The railway for which the Chinese had now given a contract was the very line which Baron Komura had in his mind when getting this promise. The Japanese Government had, therefore, protested to the Chinese some time ago against this railway being made. They had protested again only two or three days before the contract was signed. The Chinese therefore knew very well what they were doing. The South Manchurian Railway was the only paying concern which the Japanese had obtained from the war. Corea, for instance, was costing them money—not bringing it in. Even the railway was not paying, though it would do so in the future. It was, therefore, impossible that the Japanese should allow a competing line to be made, and they would have to take whatever steps were necessary to prevent it. I told him we had already instructed Sir John Jordan that we could not press the railway if it really was a competing line, though British people who were interested in it commercially contended that it was not a competing line. We were not interested in it politically in any way—that is to say, it was in no sense a British Concession. The Chinese had given the contract to Messrs. Pauling, a well-known firm who had made railways in Africa, and we had given the firm the support which we gave to any British firm engaged in commercial enterprise in any part of the world.' We had not taken any steps to promote the making of this particular line, but we had recommended the firm to the Chinese as one of good reputation, in case they should wish to employ them for their own purposes. I am, &c. [2815 bb-1] (Signed) E. GREY.
Baseline (Original)
[This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government. 508 60 CHINA RAILWAYS. CONFIDENTIAL. [2794] No. 1. [January IR 20 FEE 08; SECTION 1. Sir Edward Grey to Sir C. MacDonald. (No. 12.) Sir, Foreign Office, January 25, 1908. THE Japanese Ambassador told me on the 21st January that in 1905, after the cession of the Russian rights in South Manchuria to the Japanese, he had obtained from the Chinese a promise that they would not make any line competing with the South Manchuria Railway, or any branch which would injure it. The railway for which the Chinese had now given a contract was the very line which Baron Komura had in his mind when getting this promise. The Japanese Government had, therefore, protested to the Chinese some time ago against this railway being made. They had protested again only two or three days before the contract was signed. The Chinese therefore knew very well what they were doing. The South Manchurian Railway was the only paying concern which the Japanese had obtained from the war. Corea, for instance, was costing them money-not bringing it in. Even the railway was not paying, though it would do so in the future. It was, therefore, impossible that the Japanese should allow a competing line to be made, and they would have to take whatever steps were necessary to prevent it. I told him we had already instructed Sir John Jordan that we could not press the railway if it really was a competing line, though British people who were interested in it commercially contended that it was not a competing line. We were not interested in it politically in any way-that was to say, it was in no sense a British Concession. The Chinese had given the contract to Messrs. Pauling, a well-known firm who had made railways in Africa, and we had given the firm the support which we gave to any British firm engaged in commercial enterprise in any part of the world.' We had not taken any steps to promote the making of this particular line, but we had recommended the firm to the Chinese as one of good reputation, in case they should wish to employ them for their own purposes. I am, &c. [2815 bb-1] (Signed) E. GREY.
2026-06-06 00:45:17 · Baseline
View content

[This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty's Government.

508 60

CHINA RAILWAYS.

CONFIDENTIAL.

[2794]

No. 1.

[January

IR 20 FEE 08; SECTION 1.

Sir Edward Grey to Sir C. MacDonald.

(No. 12.) Sir,

Foreign Office, January 25, 1908. THE Japanese Ambassador told me on the 21st January that in 1905, after the cession of the Russian rights in South Manchuria to the Japanese, he had obtained from the Chinese a promise that they would not make any line competing with the South Manchuria Railway, or any branch which would injure it.

The railway for which the Chinese had now given a contract was the very line which Baron Komura had in his mind when getting this promise. The Japanese Government had, therefore, protested to the Chinese some time ago against this railway being made. They had protested again only two or three days before the contract was signed. The Chinese therefore knew very well what they were doing.

The South Manchurian Railway was the only paying concern which the Japanese had obtained from the war. Corea, for instance, was costing them money-not bringing it in. Even the railway was not paying, though it would do so in the future. It was, therefore, impossible that the Japanese should allow a competing line to be made, and they would have to take whatever steps were necessary to prevent it.

I told him we had already instructed Sir John Jordan that we could not press the railway if it really was a competing line, though British people who were interested in it commercially contended that it was not a competing line.

We were not interested in it politically in any way-that was to say, it was in no sense a British Concession. The Chinese had given the contract to Messrs. Pauling, a well-known firm who had made railways in Africa, and we had given the firm the support which we gave to any British firm engaged in commercial enterprise in any part of the world.'

We had not taken any steps to promote the making of this particular line, but we had recommended the firm to the Chinese as one of good reputation, in case they should wish to employ them for their own purposes.

I am, &c.

[2815 bb-1]

(Signed)

E. GREY.

Comments

Approved members can add comments, bookmarks, and private notes.

No comments yet.

Private Research Note

Private notes are available after approval.